Grundig CDI 110E Information and Repair

Grundig CDI 110E Information and Repair

The Grundig CDI 110E is the latest addition to my ever growing family of CD-i players. It is an OEM version of the Philips CDI 470, which it also looks like – if it weren’t for the brand badge, logo and lettering that distinguish them. There are a few other differences, which I will address in this article. Apart from that, it suffers from the usual problems such as a faulty Timekeeper, failure to read discs and a noisy disc tray. Fixing these problems is also covered in this article.

The labels show that the CDI 110E was manufactured in calendar week 43 of 1996 at the Philips optical storage production plant in Hasselt, Belgium (AH 00 9643…). This was about a year later than a standard CDI 470. The CDI 110E was not the only CD-i player under the Grundig brand name, which makes sense given that Philips was their largest shareholder at the time and controlled the business. However, it was not the only OEM version of a 470 either. The following entries are from The Interactive Engineer Volume 5, Number 5, September/October 1996:

∆220F5/80, /82(CDI100V Grunding Germany) ,
/83(Grunding Spain) , /85, /97

∆470/00, /01, /05, /06(Brasil), /11, /17(Magnavox
USA), /20(=/00+DVC), /80(CDI4000SBR),
/81(TL2000 Talilaser), /82(brandless)

Remarkable here is the misspelled brand name on the 220 models and the fact that there is no trace of Grundig on the 470 models. We only see /80 for the SBR CDI 4000 and /81 for the TaliLaser TL 2000, as well as /82 for a brandless OEM model.

It is not yet known which slash number belongs to the CDI 110E. However, I will return to this topic briefly when we get to the system ROM.

Player shell

The player shell is similar to that of the standard Philips 470 players, but there are a few minor differences: there is no brand logo, and the copyright screen indicates the system ROM ID 73 R1.0. In this article from CD-i Fan, you will find out how to read the information on the copyright screen.

System ROM

ID 73 proved to be a BRANDLESS system ROM – matching the player shell without a brand logo.

CDI 470 BRANDLESS R1.0 system ROM
CDI 470 BRANDLESS R1.0 system ROM

And now we can return to the topic of determining the slash number: remember /82 for brandless OEM? It is possible that the 110E is actually a 470/82. However, this would slightly contradict the TaliLaser TL200 (470/81), which has exactly the same brandless ROM (ID 73 R1.0). The SBR CDI 4000 (470/80), on the other hand, has a regular Philips CDI 470 ROM (ID 70 R1.1).

Another possibility is to follow the slash number pattern of the 220/80: /82 for Grundig Germany and /83 for Grundig Spain. Since this 110E comes from Spain, it could be a 470/83. However, this is pure speculation, as the list in The Interactive Engineer is incomplete and has already been proven to be partially incorrect. This issue therefore remains a mystery for the time being, until an updated list is found.

Before we take a closer look at the inside of the player, let’s briefly return to the system ROM. The low-level test confirms the ROM ID and release number. (Ignore “MONO III” etc. in the menu – Philips never bothered to change this for any of the 470 system ROMs I have seen so far. The first time “MONO-4” was mentioned was in an ID 77 R1.6 (for CDI 490) that I found in a 470/85 – another model missing from the list.)

Here is a list of all modules and checksums for your information:

DVC cage

To access the mainboard with the system ROM, I first had to remove the DVC cage. However, this did not contain a DVC, but something I had never seen before: an eject mechanism that allowed a DVC to be removed without tools. When I first published the photos, someone contacted me and said that this eject mechanism was also used in other models but couldn’t remember which ones. I assume that these can only be models that were originally sold without DVC, e.g. 470/00 or 470/17. Prior to this, I had mainly worked with 470/20 (with factory-installed DVC), which would explain why I had never seen this mechanism before.

Mainboard

At first glance, a typical Mono IV mainboard for small CD-i players.

However, there are traces of previous rework on the back, and the solder joints are somewhat rough. It must have been a 470/17 (US) before: the crystal oscillator was replaced and resistor 3203 was moved to 3290 (see 50/60 Hz modification). In addition, the internal RF modulator was removed and replaced with the circuit and connector for an external RF modulator.

Since I had to replace the Timekeeper anyway, I decided to clean up the previous rework as well.

I replaced the Timekeeper with a 28-pin IC socket and a reworked MK48T08B with CabriDIY’s PCB. Everything you need to know about this topic can be found in this article.

Grundig CDI 110E mainboard - reworked Timekeeper
Grundig CDI 110E mainboard – reworked Timekeeper

This concludes all work on the mainboard. I reassembled everything and turned my attention to the next issue.

Tray loader

Since writing the article Philips CDI470 Diagnosis and Repair almost six years ago, I have handled many CD-i players with similar problems and have been able to simplify some of the repair steps. Nevertheless, it is advisable to read this article to understand the basics.

First, I unlocked the tray by pressing the plastic spring marked with an arrow (also explained here) and then removed the entire tray loader from the player. Then, I cleaned out the old grease and renewed it where needed. Especially on the spindles marked with circles, which are responsible for the screaming noise when opening the tray. I also lifted the turntable, as it was pressed down and the disc couldn’t spin anymore.

Grundig CDI 110E tray loader
Grundig CDI 110E tray loader

Then I ran out of time for that day and reassembled everything without thoroughly analysing the CDM. A final test in the Service Shell confirmed that the laser cannot see the disc, so there must be something wrong with the laser. It couldn’t be the height of the turntable, as this had already been adjusted.

Service Shell: Mode 0 after FOCUS ERROR
Service Shell: Mode 0 after FOCUS ERROR

CDM

A few days later, I found time to take a closer look at the CD mechanism. It is a CDM 12.1, which is very similar to the model featured in this repair guide. I removed the tray and tray loader again, unhooked the cables and then slid out the sub-chassis. Even though previous repair guides recommend removing the four suspensions (see also Motor repair), this is not actually necessary if you know how to access the CDM.

Next is a photo of the sub-chassis with the CDM and laser sledge removed. The worm gear of the sledge motor is wrapped in an IPA-soaked wipe to remove the old grease. Note the plastic pins marked with small circles (there are two more on the opposite side): these must also be cleaned and regreased after cleaning the CDM. The large circle marks an important area: this is where the tray pushes against the sub-chassis to lift it when the tray is almost closed. This area must also be cleaned and greased, otherwise the tray will get stuck later and cannot close properly on its own.

Grundig CDI 110E sub-chassis with CDM 12.1
Grundig CDI 110E sub-chassis with CDM 12.1

After cleaning everything, I installed a new laser sledge, greased it and reassembled the CDM. As a final test, I held the sub-chassis in my hand and started the Service Shell again. This time, it recognised the disc and performed all subsequent steps without error.

Then I reassembled the tray loader and checked the height of the turntable one last time. As a finishing touch, I put a drop of UV lacquer on the spindle.

Final test

After that, all that remained was to perform a final test. CD+G discs are ideal for this, as you can not only hear errors, but also see them if data from the subchannels cannot be read correctly. I usually play a disc on repeat in shuffle mode for a while.

In the photo, I have also marked the point where the tray and the sub-chassis touch.

Grundig CDI 110E - final test
Grundig CDI 110E – final test

This concludes the article Grundig CDI 110E Information and Repair.

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